What's Next?
The addition of Rafael Soriano is a move the Yankees were smart to make. There was no one else in the marketplace who could make the same impact on the Yankees that Soriano will. By adding Soriano, the Yankees have locked down the 8th inning and provided themselves with protection if Mariano gets hurt or suddenly ages- but the real question is what do they do next?
If they are smart, they use Soriano's presence on the roster as an excuse to move Joba back into the rotation. Yeah, yeah, I know all the arguments against this, but this to me determines whether or not signing Soriano was a smart move. Joba in the pen is now a complete waste, because Robertson-Soriano-Rivera should handle the 7th, 8th and 9th and you also have Feliciano and Logan to get out tough lefties. But, Joba in the rotation adds tremendous value because the Yankees need a 4th and 5th starter right now.
It's pointless to rehash all the arguments, the comments, etc., about this but there is one critical fact to remember- the guy is still only 24. He isn't a finished product yet. Put him in the 2011 rotation and you may get the 4.75 ERA and 157 innings you got in 2009. The Yankees won 95 games this past season with two guys putting up numbers much, much worse than that, so that wouldn't be a disaster. But, you might also get something much better from Joba, perhaps he shows off the form that allowed him to compile a 3.58 ERA in his first 20 starts of 2009. The Yankees are linked to a lot of mediocre pitchers to fill out their rotation, why not go with a guy who 18 months ago was considered one of the best prospects in baseball?
Comments
Couldn't agree more.
Posted by: Greg | January 14, 2011 10:35 AM |
What Greg said ...
Or maybe Joba gets traded now for a different arm?
Posted by: Mitchell
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January 14, 2011 11:31 AM
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An afterthought: one of the things that puzzles me about this team is that sometimeds perfectly good kids "blow out" of the team either before or after their time. If they trade Joba and he lands someplace, finds a home and his strenghts, he will be following in the footsteps of Ian Kennedy - who had a pretty decent year with the Diamondbacks with a WHIP of 1.2, an ERA of 3.80 and 194 innings total over 32 starts. Even adjusting for the NL - those aren't shabby numbers for a mid-rotation arm.
Posted by: Mitchell
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January 14, 2011 12:48 PM
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I like Joba in the bullpen. He's not wasted if he comes in for the 6th or 7th inning and snuffs out a rally on a tiring starter.
What, then, do we do about {gasp} Mitre!!?? Bring up one of the kids or sign a journeyman. Look, if Nova and Burnett crap out, the season is lost anyway. So what if your fifth starter is uncertain? But don't let it be Mitre because he is certain -- to fail.
Posted by: Corey | January 14, 2011 02:50 PM |
Corey,
I think the Yankees owe it to themselves to really give Joba a thorough evaluation as a starter. I don't think they have done that yet.
Couldn't agree more with the part about Mitre (I know, I know -- I'm recycling my posts). I just do not understand the Yankees' fixation with Mitre -- what's up with that? Get rid of him already.
Posted by: Greg | January 14, 2011 11:26 PM |
Joba? OK, here's what I'm thinking about Joba.
One of the keys to a young pitcher's development is finding a coach who can work with (not against) a kid to get the most out of his stuff. I can think of some great coaches (Sain, Mazzone) who REALLY knew how to develop and maintain some great arms - and not once do I (or did I ever) think Eiland fit in that "great" or even "good" coach category.
I'm thinking - acutally, I'm more hoping - that Rothschild can get Joba to straighten his head (and his effin hat) and find a comfort zone as a successful starter. Make it so that he stops looking up and around while he's on the mound and instead just looks in, with 100% plate and batter focus - the way Moose and Andy learned to do. I hope, I hope, I hope.
Joba's stuff is good, his head/focus is awful. I think the team screwed him up - maybe the team can undo that damage via Rothschild.
Posted by: Mitchell
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January 16, 2011 12:24 AM
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Mitchell,
I agree about Eiland -- he didn't impress me. I am uncomfortable with the idea that the team screwed him up. It places too much of the responsibility on the team. I think Joba (and AJ) has significant maturity issues. As you noted, his demeanor on the mound when he starts is just awful.
Posted by: Greg | January 16, 2011 11:27 AM |
Greg
I think Joba has huge maturity issues perhaps stemming from too much success too early in his career. But the fact that he was 7-2 with a 3.58 before they started jerking him around in 2009 makes me blame the team as well.
I think Mitchell makes a great point about Rothschild, but his results with Carlos Zambrano in Chicago don't exactly instill me with confidence either.
Posted by: Peter
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January 16, 2011 12:39 PM
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Peter - I think Zambrano is such a wild man that not even Johnny Sain could have gotten him to relax and just beat the batter one pitch at a time. Joba, on the other hand, probably just needs someone who can teach him to relax (as in drop the attitude) and focus. We'll see how Joba looks in 60 days or so after Rothschild arrives - I'm hoping for the best.
Posted by: Mitchell
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January 16, 2011 04:10 PM
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Mitchell- Yes, Big Z is in a class by himself, or maybe a class with AJ Burnett?
Personally, I think something clicked back on for Joba last year when the Yankees traded for Kerry Wood. I think he suddenly realized that the team was no longer willing to hand him a job and he needed to go out there and earn one.
I think he will have a big 2011, but I wonder what his role will be and if he will even be a Yankee come the start of the season.
Posted by: Peter
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January 17, 2011 12:55 AM
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