Shut Up!
It's bad enough hearing all the excuses flying around, but now Curt Schilling has joined the party, suggesting that Roger Clemens give back his awards won since 1997.
Yes, the same Curt Schilling who was called before Congress in 2005 to testify about the drug problem in baseball because of comments he had made and when he had the chance, told Congress he had "grossly overstated it" (the problem)
Schilling also stated at those hearings in regards to the drug testing in baseball, "If there are loopholes....we will close them." (2-1/2 years later, that still hasn't happened)
If Frank Thomas, the ONLY active player who helped the Mitchell investigation would like to offer any suggestions, I am all ears. Otherwise, all the active players who didn't and Curt who didn't follow up on his promises, should zip it. Is Clemens guilty? It certainly seems like it, but how many other guilty players are out there who didn't get named? How can we ever sort out what record should be expunged if we don't know the full extent of the juicing? Richard Nixon was impeached, but he is still listed as the President from 1969-1974. Historians of baseball will have to cast a wide net over the last 20 years and the next few until the testing is real and it will forever be known as the steroids era. Judge the numbers with caution, that's the reality of all of this.
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I believe Nixon resigned before the articles of impeachment were drawn up, certainly before they hit the senate, but your point is very valid. Schilling should be asking Big Pappi "What do you mean you don't know if you ever took PEDs?"
Posted by: Grant | December 20, 2007 02:38 AM |
Grant, I should have made the facts clearer. The House Judiciary committee voted on articles of impeachment and passed them. They were never voted on by the full House because he resigned.
(And if I had just looked at a "this day in history" blurb anywhere I probably would have noticed that Bill Clinton was impeached by the House nine years to the day before I wrote that post.)
Posted by: Peter
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December 20, 2007 07:09 AM
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How about the fact that Mitchell's evidence isn't good enough to hold up in court. Schilling should shut up and wait for everything to play out before he makes his generalizations.
Posted by: Tripp | December 20, 2007 07:50 AM |
Ahh, learn something everyday, thanks for setting me straight. Suppose I could have used that "information super highway" thing.
Posted by: Grant | December 20, 2007 09:34 AM |
I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on this one. As much as Schilling is a total blowhard, by your standards, there's only one player, active anyway, who can render an opinion on the situation, Thomas. Plus, I'm not altogether sure how Schilling was supposed to "follow up on his promises", I mean really, what is a player going to do to close gaps, not much, thats up to MLB. I wish more players would stand up, however late, and voice their opinion, hypocritical, maybe, but so what, if Clemens was juiced, as it looks, how is he really worthy of the Cy Young awards, as opposed to pitchers that were clean. Further, its just an opinion, Schilling isn't saying Clemens was juiced, just suggesting that if he was, by the evidence he's seen, he's not worthy of the awards. As it is right now, its like the Blue Code of Silence from the players, I say break it, opinions are welcome, Clemens made his own bed, so he should lay in the criticism, and revel in his newfound celebrity.
Posted by: Mark | December 21, 2007 12:23 PM |
BTW, there is a certain irony in someone rendering an opinion on the whole affair opining that someone else shouldnt render an opinion...i mean im just sayin....
Posted by: Mark | December 21, 2007 12:35 PM |
Mark-
I have two problems with your argument.
1- In regards to the awards. How do you know that the person you give it to is clean? That's my problem with this issue, you can't selectively say so and so cheated and so and so didn't. Sadly, we have to conclude that there was a lot of cheating going on (and may still be going on) and we will never know where to draw the line. I think Clemens cheated and I hope that someone is able to prove it at some point, but I can't strip him of his awards because I can't say he was the only guy.
2- Yes, it is ironic that I am telling Schilling to zip it while spouting off myself, but unlike me Schilling was in a position to do something about this. Schilling is a member of the Players Association, the organization that has fought testing and penalties every step of the way. Why didn't he talk to Mitchell? Why did he spout off about steroid use before March 2005 and then tell Congress he had grossly overstated it? The thing that annoys me is Schilling talks when he wants to, but he doesn't back up his words.
Posted by: Peter
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December 21, 2007 05:19 PM
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Actually, to point 1, I wasn't advocating taking his awards away, I think the cow has left the barn on that one, I just meant that I would advocate and support MLB players voicing their opinions that anyone who juiced isn't worthy of the awards, even though its a moot point because whats done is done. As far as I know Schilling is the only active player to say anything, as hypocritical as he is, all the power to him. To point 2, yes you're right on that one, albeit again, I think Schilling is the only one to say anything, active player anyway, so all the power to him, although he is definately a blowhard that could have done way more, and given that he is a complete blowhard, he is most definately more hypocritical than most, shite, the guy posts on his blog when he doesn't like sprinkles on his donut, so for him to go silent all these years is unacceptable.
Posted by: Mark | December 26, 2007 09:23 AM |